
last US Cavalry post ww2,129th sqn and 7766th troop
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Sawicki's "Cavalry Regiments of the U.S. Army indicates the 29th was inactivated on May 1, 1944. Can you make out any of the characters on the guidon? Also, there was no DUI known to have been authorized or worn by the 29th when active. There is a concocted DUI, made on whim by a collector, to fill the hole in his display caused by 29th having no DUI. Can you furnish an illustration of your DUI?
Sawicki's "Cavalry Regiments of the U.S. Army indicates the 29th was inactivated on May 1, 1944. Can you make out any of the characters on the guidon? Also, there was no DUI known to have been authorized or worn by the 29th when active. There is a concocted DUI, made on whim by a collector, to fill the hole in his display caused by 29th having no DUI. Can you furnish an illustration of your DUI?
It apears to be RTC 1
Some sources have 129th Cavalry being active til november 46,i think this is a typo for 1/29th
The di is the similair to the 124th Regiment.
From my research the 29th recieved some of the older enlisted men from the 124th when they shipped that regiment to Burma.
I have photos from Troop F and Troop L,29th Cavalry Regiment all taken between 44 and 45.
Im interested to see if the 29th was a 2 Sqn or 3 Sqn regiment.
I will hit the scanner tonite and get some more stuff up soon.
The CRTC had 3 Training Regiments at Riley until 45,I have so many troop photos from the classes that i think i could cover each Troop from each of the 3 regiments(between 43 and 46)
The photo is from a clipping that came with the group,hand written notes indicate the Guidon carriers as "me with the flag,Junction City"
The other picture is a studio shot.
Some sources have 129th Cavalry being active til november 46,i think this is a typo for 1/29th
The di is the similair to the 124th Regiment.
From my research the 29th recieved some of the older enlisted men from the 124th when they shipped that regiment to Burma.
I have photos from Troop F and Troop L,29th Cavalry Regiment all taken between 44 and 45.
Im interested to see if the 29th was a 2 Sqn or 3 Sqn regiment.
I will hit the scanner tonite and get some more stuff up soon.
The CRTC had 3 Training Regiments at Riley until 45,I have so many troop photos from the classes that i think i could cover each Troop from each of the 3 regiments(between 43 and 46)
The photo is from a clipping that came with the group,hand written notes indicate the Guidon carriers as "me with the flag,Junction City"
The other picture is a studio shot.
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Very interesting stuff, thanks!
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The 29th DI is listed in Vol. 3 of the ASMIC Armor/Cavalry Catalog as Z29D1 and is an E Class. That means, as Richard stated, that the insignia was invented and made by a collector on the basis of drawings, blazons or whim for sale to collectors, veterans associations, etc. Never worn by troops.
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It was clear that horses were being banished from the last cavalry unit and, for all practical purposes, from the Army. The last mounted cavalry unit was the 129th Cavalry Squadron, activated 01 May 1944 for tactical instruction at the Cavalry School, which was deactivated 06 February 1945. However, the 127th Cav deactivated at Ft Riley in 1947. Also, consider the Horse Platoon, 16th Constabulary Squad, in Berlin (originally the Horse Platoon, 78th Cavalry Recon Troop, 78th Div. The last active cavalry post was Ft Riley, KS, where the Cavalry School deactivated on 31 October 1946 or November 1946, including horses & training detachment (129th Squadron?). The last U.S. cavalry horse in U.S. service died on 24 May 1959. The last mounted (horse or mule) US Army unit was the 4th FA Bn & 35th QM Pack Co, both deactivated at Ft Carson, CO, 15 February 1957.
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http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... -lasts.htm
Worth mentiong that it was only Battery A that was animal dependant
from
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... -lasts.htm
Worth mentiong that it was only Battery A that was animal dependant
Well after thorough research it seems that the 129th Cavalry Training Squadron was shipped to the CBI as replacements for the 475th Infantry Regiment.They arrived in India in January 45.They arrived equiped for mounted warfare.
A troop went to 1st Btn 475th,B Troop went to 2nd Btn 475th and C troop to 3rd Btn 475th.
The thinking was to inject animal minded soldiers into each of the Infantry Btns.
The 29th Cavalry Regiment(prov) was a 2 sqn regiment with a seperate HQ Troop.1st Sqn 29th sent a lot of chaps to the CBI via the 124th Cavalry Regiment(Its was from these resources that the 124th raised its 3rd Sqn in India.
HQ troop,29th Cavalry regiment was expanded and became the 127th Training Sqn(Animal management)
A Troop 127th was equitation,B troop was animal hygene and health ,C troop from what i have found was never raised beyond paper.
Now the plot thickens,127th Training Sqn was deactivaded in ?????? and reraised sometime ??? in Germany as a remount depot.
They processed German army stock including livestock(Sheep,cows and pigs)The 127th was not part of the Constabulary but was part of the 3rd Army.
The only Constabulary horse unit larger than a platoon was the 7766th Constabulary Horse Troop,raised 1948 from a cadre of the 2nd Constabulary Regiment horse platoon.The 7766th operated from August 48 til late 49,along the Russian,American zone borders.The 7766th was 162 enlisted men ,5 officers arranged in 4 Platoons plus an HQ section with Machine gun Squad
Here is some 7766th Horse Troop pics from some newspaper clippings i have





These pics are from 1949
Now how is that for some horse cavalry lasts!
Hope this was helpfull,its 10 years of really dull research.
A troop went to 1st Btn 475th,B Troop went to 2nd Btn 475th and C troop to 3rd Btn 475th.
The thinking was to inject animal minded soldiers into each of the Infantry Btns.
The 29th Cavalry Regiment(prov) was a 2 sqn regiment with a seperate HQ Troop.1st Sqn 29th sent a lot of chaps to the CBI via the 124th Cavalry Regiment(Its was from these resources that the 124th raised its 3rd Sqn in India.
HQ troop,29th Cavalry regiment was expanded and became the 127th Training Sqn(Animal management)
A Troop 127th was equitation,B troop was animal hygene and health ,C troop from what i have found was never raised beyond paper.
Now the plot thickens,127th Training Sqn was deactivaded in ?????? and reraised sometime ??? in Germany as a remount depot.
They processed German army stock including livestock(Sheep,cows and pigs)The 127th was not part of the Constabulary but was part of the 3rd Army.
The only Constabulary horse unit larger than a platoon was the 7766th Constabulary Horse Troop,raised 1948 from a cadre of the 2nd Constabulary Regiment horse platoon.The 7766th operated from August 48 til late 49,along the Russian,American zone borders.The 7766th was 162 enlisted men ,5 officers arranged in 4 Platoons plus an HQ section with Machine gun Squad
Here is some 7766th Horse Troop pics from some newspaper clippings i have





These pics are from 1949
Now how is that for some horse cavalry lasts!
Hope this was helpfull,its 10 years of really dull research.
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Were these units organized as some sort of organic cavalry? I.e, were they actually mounted while in the CBI?Sam Cox wrote:Well after thorough research it seems that the 129th Cavalry Training Squadron was shipped to the CBI as replacements for the 475th Infantry Regiment.They arrived in India in January 45.They arrived equiped for mounted warfare.
A troop went to 1st Btn 475th,B Troop went to 2nd Btn 475th and C troop to 3rd Btn 475th.
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Nope
They arrived at Ramgargh Training Centre and pooled as Ground Forces Reserve.
They (the 129th) went to Camp Landis(Burma) and recieved orders there.
Like the 124th Cavalry they went overseas with the works,boots,breeches,28 saddles,cavalry pack saddles and it was all stored in India after Ramgargh.
Pat ive still got that pic to scan,its been one of those weeks so sorry for my tardiness.
Its a great pic and im sure you will get a kick out of it even if its from other Holschers
REgards
Sam
Nope
They arrived at Ramgargh Training Centre and pooled as Ground Forces Reserve.
They (the 129th) went to Camp Landis(Burma) and recieved orders there.
Like the 124th Cavalry they went overseas with the works,boots,breeches,28 saddles,cavalry pack saddles and it was all stored in India after Ramgargh.
Pat ive still got that pic to scan,its been one of those weeks so sorry for my tardiness.
Its a great pic and im sure you will get a kick out of it even if its from other Holschers
REgards
Sam
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A few weeks ago, I spoke to a retired Army NCO who related that about 3 years ago while training at the National Training Center at Fort Irwin, "The mounted troops gave the armor fits. They hit them from places where the tankers thought nobody could go." Apparently, even though the mounted unit at Fort Irwin is primarily ceremonial, they do practice tactics for the modern battlefield.
The 29th Cavalry regiment is baffling me
It started out with
Motors Sqn
Weapons Sqn
Horse Sqn
The 29th Cavalry regiment was renamed 29th Cavalry Group(Composite,Provisional Horse-Mech)
127th Cav Sqn (mech) HQ Troop/Service Troop/A Troop/B Troop
128th Cav Sqn(Armor)HQ Troop/Service Troop/C Troop/D Troop
129th Cav Recon Sqn(Horse)SW Troop/Service Troop/E troop/F Troop/Troop H and Troop I
this is from various 1944 The Guidon Newspaper
can anyone help here?
It started out with
Motors Sqn
Weapons Sqn
Horse Sqn
The 29th Cavalry regiment was renamed 29th Cavalry Group(Composite,Provisional Horse-Mech)
127th Cav Sqn (mech) HQ Troop/Service Troop/A Troop/B Troop
128th Cav Sqn(Armor)HQ Troop/Service Troop/C Troop/D Troop
129th Cav Recon Sqn(Horse)SW Troop/Service Troop/E troop/F Troop/Troop H and Troop I
this is from various 1944 The Guidon Newspaper
can anyone help here?