Khaki Breeches

[Paul Scholtz]

Would someone know the proper way of pressing the i930's era Khaki breeches? Was there ever a regulation on it? Do you put the crease straight down as in dismounted trousers, or do you press them out flat like a big palm leaf? None of the illustrations in WW II Impressions catalog show the crease. My cleaner wants to know!

At your (mounted) service,

Paul H. Scholtz

Paul H. Scholtz

[Sam Cox]

Hey paul
the breeches in period photos 30s 40s are pressed like trousers at the rear and flat at the front\regards
sam

Sam Cox

[Ron Smith]

Yep, what he said!

Regards,
Ron Smith

[Paul Scholtz]

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Yep, what he said!

Regards,
Ron Smith




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Sam and Ron,

Thanks, I would never have come up with that alone. Now all I must do is learn it in Korean for our cleaners.

at your (mounted) service,

Paul H. Scholtz

[Pat Holscher]

As viewed from the front:


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[Pat Holscher]

And how they appeared at work:



Pat

[Pat Holscher]

Of course, the same Summer fun can be had in wool. This photo is actually from 1925:



Courtesy of the Wyoming Militia Historical Society

Pat

[Oscar Torres]

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Pvt. Tom Prowl with his horse.
Photo courtesy Prowl Collection,
Fort Huachuca Museum

[Pat Holscher]

Nice photo on that one Oscar. 1920s?

Pat

[Oscar Torres]

It is extracted from “The Buffalo Soldiers at Fort Huachuca” published in 1993 by James P. Finley, at the Huachuca Illustrated, a Magazine of the Fort Huachuca Museum.



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Quote: "During the 1920s at Fort Huachuca, troopers from the 10th Cavalry considered themselves to be the elite arm of the service, even though the firepower experienced in World War I would quickly make the horse Cavalry obsolete. The mounted soldier shown here is Pvt. Tom Prowl."

[Philip S]

That wide tie with some kind of pin is very unique. I wonder if it was colored (maybe red like members of Custer's CW cavalry).

[Pat Holscher]

Officers of the 115th:


Courtesy of the Wyoming State Militia Historical Society

Pat

[Pat Holscher]

And while mounted, Maj. Edminster, 115th, 1930s:


Courtesy of Wyoming State Militia Historical Society

Pat

[Oscar Torres]

What kind of saddle this officer is using, Maybe a Phillips Military Saddle, Model 1936? I'm learning you know.

Oscar Torres Arrau
Santiago
Chile

[Pat Holscher]

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What kind of saddle this officer is using, Maybe a Phillips Military Saddle, Model 1936? I'm learning you know.

Oscar Torres Arrau
Santiago
Chile


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I was wondering the same thing. Given as this photo was taken in 1936, it'd be a quick purchase by this officer. I'm not familiar enough with them to be able to tell from this photo. Can those of you more familiar with the saddle tell?

Pat

[Pat Holscher]

I thought that this thread might be interesting to view again, given the recent thread on presently available breeches.

Pat

[Kelton Oliver]

The major's saddle lacks the sockets on the pommel for the lugs which hold the pommel pockets in place. Also, the Phillips had an extended, squared cantle which this saddle does not seem to have. It looks a little too "close contact" for an M1917, so I'd vote for a private purchase item.

[Philip S]

I agree. I suspect that the saddle is one of the very popular 1917 type officer's saddles with extended bars that was privately purchased. It appears to be similar to this one, once offered on ebay, which had a 1928 JQMD repair tag:

[stablesgt]

Gentlemen
I'd like to ask a question related to the original inquiry here plus the Bill Kambric thread on repro britches that drifted into a discussion of proper hunting attire.

With a view to assembling everything tack & uniform for a late 1930s EM in my size for possbile reenacting,as well as one pair of khakis for wear during cubbing season. I had no problem in discovering which QM britches waist/inseam worked best. I have four different khaki pairs that, when standing, look like they were custom made for me.

BUT, THEY WON'T WORK! Waist fine, ample seat, bottom leg fits nice around and below the calf so they won't ride up inside the boot, the peg hangs just right well above the kneecap, however, I cannot sit in them without feeling my knee is going to explode the seams.
Now I suppose they rode with a longer leg in a McCl but you really cannot sit in them on a chair without them pestering your kneecaps. I cannot believe that in just one generation, nutrition has made American kneecaps markedly larger and I have not been taking steroids. So, the only thing I can deduce, given that they fit so well in every other respect, is that EM then must have been similarly bothered at the knee with seams popping open after a multiday field exercise. Any comments?
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[Paul Scholtz]

Sarge,

I have a big carcass, and Ron Smith is the master at fitting uniforms on this forum, and I'm sure he will have better advice than me. I'll offer what I did untill he posts. I ordered a size larger, then had the waist and lower leg taylored down, and starched them like a sheet of tin. No trouble with the knee or the pocket showing white. I had tried tayloring issue pants into breeches, using a size 50! the waist taylored down perfectly, the legs went just as well, but my seamstress went into absolute revolt, having to sew the reinforcing on the inseam and oputting the eyelets ointo the leg. For safety I went the other route, and hope it works for you.

I am 6'2", weigh 240, and have a 40" waist. My body is a challenge for a cavalry taylor, but we advance agianst all obstackles as cavalry men, and you can't be tougher to clothe than me. Go for it. Send us a picture as well.

At your(mounted)service,

Paul Scholtz