Armeesattel 25

[tmarsh]

Looking forward to seeing them! Tom

[Todd]

I received this note via the admin email - this book is referenced in several places on this thread - TH

I have been asked by Urlich Schumacher, who is the son of Karl Georg Schumacher, to list his email address in the Armeesattel 25 forum. He is now handling sales of the book, *_Armeesattel 25_*, written by his father. His father is now deceased. Would someone please post Mr. Schumacker's email address for anyone on the forum who would like to obtain a copy of this book. His email address is:

Familie@schumacher-durbach.de

He would be happy to assist anyone who is looking for a copy of_*Armeesattel 25*_

Thank you

Colleen Erbel
Knoxville, TN

[Barefoot]

I don't know if it's the right topic for this question. I wonder what this saddle might be:
http://gyujtemeny.vatera.hu/militaria/f ... 33266.html
The seat is similar to the armeesattel and the rawhide seat is there too but the tree looks more like a UP, the yellow felt lining is eaten away... I'm puzzled. Any ideas?

I found a couple of AS 25´s in a barn, plus a hungarian cavalry saddle.

Do you have photos of the hungarian saddle? I keep coming across hungarian saddles found in germany. I suppose they got there with the withdrawing hungarian or german forces during WWII.

[norwegianrider]

Hi! I am new to this forum. My name is Aleksander Carlsson I want to show my german cavalry equipment for you!
I use this saddle and bags regulary and allmost every day riding in the woods and mountains of Norway and I would never changed my armesattel for any other saddle for this type of riding! Love the forum!

[Pat Holscher]

Thanks Aleksander. Great photos and impressive looking countryside too!

[Jfiller]

Could anyone tell me about a a probable M25 with the only marking being "Otto Kober Landsburg 1938. Is this an armeesattel or not? No other markings on leather or tree other than size 2. Otherwise it is identical to saddles with Wa numbers I own.

[Pat Holscher]

Could anyone tell me about a a probable M25 with the only marking being "Otto Kober Landsburg 1938. Is this an armeesattel or not? No other markings on leather or tree other than size 2. Otherwise it is identical to saddles with Wa numbers I own.

Otto Koberstien (not Kober) was a German leather goods manufacture. They were a contractor to the German Army, although that doesn't necessarily answer your question.

[tmarsh]

J.Filler, Yes It is probably a M25. It just does not have the inspector stamps and 3 letter code. Not for sure but for some reason thought the 3 letter code and inspector stamps did not begin til around 1940. I will try and research that for you. I believe Otto Koberstein 's code was ROS. According to someone at Passier, the government at the time had certain specifications for making the M25 for the service. It translated to something like "military regulations". Many saddlers did make this saddle and did sell it to the military. It thus helped the German economy with the profit going to the local saddlers. The 3 letter code was suppose to be a secret and the waffen stamps made someone responsible if it did not hold up. Tom

[Jfiller]

Thanks very much for the excellent information.

[Laca]

Hi Guys!

I have and M25 German Armeesattel, and would like to know if anyone has any idea on what is the function of the "ring" on the front right side.
It is mentioned as Ausbindering on the referred page (http://www.mp44.nl/equipment/army_saddle.htm)
(Marked with letter "v" on this picture: http://www.mp44.nl/images/equipment/sad ... tel_05.jpg)

"The front pommel (h), whose chamber is cut back, is reinforced by an outer and an inner steel rail; it carries on the front a hanger strap (i) in two riveted triangular rings (k), and on the right a Ausbindering (v) (Fig. 2a)"

Does anyone use this for any reason? Do you have any idea what's the original function of it?

Thanks in advance!

Laca

[Todd]

Some contemporary photos show the halter lead strap being attached to the saddle at about that point. May have been other uses as well.

[Pat Holscher]

Nice set of photos on those links.

[tmarsh]

It is also interesting to note that the saddle in the photos was not the common M25 in that it had 2 addition rings in the cantle. This was suppose ably for carrying a machine gun or an art range finder. The cantle ring saddle was seen less in WW2 but more common with WW1 saddle. Tom

[Pat Holscher]

It is also interesting to note that the saddle in the photos was not the common M25 in that it had 2 addition rings in the cantle. This was suppose ably for carrying a machine gun or an art range finder. The cantle ring saddle was seen less in WW2 but more common with WW1 saddle. Tom

Very interesting Tom, I wasn't aware of that at all.

[Pat Holscher]

Bump.