Horse Ambulance

[mitch fenton]

Im trying to dig up some information on a horse drawn ambulance for injured/sick horses.
It would have been in the time period of 1900-1918.

No mention of it appears in the manual for the quatermaster 0f 1916 or campbell's books on veterinary milatary history.

Has anyone seen a picture of this wagon/cart or refrence to it?


Thanks,

Mitch

M3fenton@aol.com

[Couvi]

Mitch,

If memory serves, the photo I saw is of a cart-type vehicle with arches of some sort of I-beam above it on both ends and some sort of lifting devices. I suspect the floor came out, the animal was lifted up and floor replaced, but this is only my own speculation, as I have never seen a real one. You might try contacting Mr. O’Gorman, ogormanj@lee.army.mil at the Quartermaster Museum on that one.

Couvi

<i>"Cavalier san Cheval"</i>

[browerpatch]

Mitch,
There is a drawing of a WW1 British horse-drawn horse ambulance by Edwin Noble on pps 122-23 of "The Horse in War" by J. M. Brereton (Arco: London, New York, 1976). It has a 2 horse tandem hitch, 2 heavy wheels and a box body that extends between the wheels, so they couldn't be on an axle. Perhaps the body pivoted at the balance point to allow a horse to be led on board. This is the only depiction of one I can remember seeing. I've got another book I'll check tomorrow and see if there is any thing in it. I've tried to post some pictures before and wound up having to email them to Pat, who was kind enough to post them for me. If you're interested, I'll get a scan of this drawing, and email them to you.

Frank.

PS, This book also has a few good photos of British troopers mounted, with equipments.



Frank

[Philip S]

A quick internet search came up with the following non US Army horse ambulances. They are interesting vehicles.

http://pioneerequine.com/pictures/view. ... ction=Back
http://www.mcny.org/Exhibitions/Prev%20 ... SPCAPR.htm
http://www.sfspca.org/volunteers/CC_feb03.shtml
http://users.argonet.co.uk/users/chris. ... page2.html

[Philip S]

While searching for pictures of horse ambulances I kept running into something called the “American Red Star Animal Relief.” This apparently was a veterinary counterpart of the Red Cross during WWI.

http://www.powell76.freeserve.co.uk/asoldierskiss.htm

[mitch fenton]

Thanks everyone for the replys....

The red star animal relief as i understood it was the predecessor to the humane society that we have today.
I have some pamphlets from this organization In my veterinary collection distributed during wwI on proper techniques of shooting/putting down horses humanely.

The cart im looking for was box like for single horse and the riders had jump seats built behind the wheels on the sides near the rear.

regards,

Mitch

[Pat Holscher]

<b>This was submitted by email by Alan Albright</b>

A query in the thread--- on ambulances for horses, not horse-drawn ambulances as I had assumed---- was about the "American Red Star Animal Relief"---- a kind of "Red Cross" for animals.

The only reference I could find in my relatively meager material was this one--- a book which I had donated to the reference library of the Museum of Franco-American Cooperation at Blérancourt (Aisne), a number of years ago. (I've just found that book listed through http://www.bookfinder.com at Alibris [United States]----New York Jefferson Wiiliams & Mayfair 1918. Moderate wear along the edges, otherwise, very good. 4to, hardcover, 315pp. , the book honors the role of American civic & philanthropic organiztions during World War I. Illustrated by sepiatone plates. first edition. $19.95---- and at other houses, at increasing prices).

<font size="1">"THE VOLUNTARY AID OF AMERICA", Price: Fifty Dollars, published by Jefferson Williams, Esq, in conjunction with "Mayfair", New York, London, December 1918



KOLOPHON



In preparing and publishing the Voluntary Aid of America my aim has been to create a permanent record of authenticated relief groups which have been formed during the Great World War. The volume, confining itself deliberately to its chosen field, makes no pretense to supply the war biography of individuals. My one endeavor has been to safeguard to posterity, as far as may be in a single volume the purposes and personnel of the organizations which have borne the burden ot relief work and to do this in the most concise way consistent with accuracy and requisite information. Every effort has been made to secure such accuracy. The data relating to each organization has been supplied and verified by its own responsible representative. I am, therefore, indebted to the officers of these bodies for their co-operation, and thank them, herewith.



My thanks are further due to Messrs. Doubleday Page & Co., for their courtesy in permitting the reproduction in these pages of important matter on which these gentlemen hold the copyright; to H. Keen Hargreaves, Esq., who was first to suggest the work, and who is responsible for the collection of data necessary for it; also to Dr. Vernon Kellogg, who has furnished me with facts concerning the Belgian Relief work, and, to Miss Ada Sterling, formerly associate editor with Messrs. Harper Bros., for valued research into the origin of today's expression of great voluntary aid which appears in the Foreword of this volume. I furthermore am indebted to the honorable gentlemen whose photographs appear herein, for the courtesy of permitting me to reproduce them.



The book goes out with a regret that it cannot include the names of an even greater number of the hosts who have come to humanity's aid during the most stressful period of the world's history, and with the hope that it may prove an enduring record of human kindness.

JEFFERSON WILLIAMS.



New York,

December the ninth,

Nineteen hundred and eighteen





CONTENTS



FOREWORD

AMERICAN ALLIES CO-OPERATIVE COMMITTEE

AMERICAN RED CROSS .

AMERICAN RED STAR ANIMAL RELIEF .

THE AMERICAN MCALL ASSOCIATION .

AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION CAMPAIGN

AMERICAN COMMITTEE FOR TRAINING IN SUITABLE TRADES THE MAIMED SOLDIERS OF FRANCE

AID FOR DESTITUTE BELGIAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN .

AMERICAN WOMEN'S HOSPITALS .

AMERICAN COMMITTEE FOR DEVASTATED FRANCE, INC

AMERICAN COMMITTEE IN AID OF THE ITALIAN REFUGEES AND SOLDlERS CRIPPLED IN WAR .

AMERICAN OUVROIR FUNDS .

AMERICAN FUND FOR FRENCH WOUNDED

AMERICAN FUND FOR BELGIAN MAIMED

AMERICAN STUDENTS COMMITTEE OF THE ECOLE DES BEAUX-ARTS

AMERICAN FIELD SERVICE FUND .

AMERICAN DEFENSE SOCIETY

THE AMERICAN CHOCOLATE FUND

AMERICAN ARTISTS' COMMITTEE OF ONE HUNDRED

AN ARMY GIRL'S TRANSPORT TOBACCO FUND

APPUI AUX ARTISTES

THE AUTHOR S LEAGUE FUND

BLIND AND CRIPPLED RELIEF FUND

BELGIAN RELIEF FUND .

TIIE BELGIAN WOMEN'SOCIETY

BRITISH AND CANADIAN PATRIOTIC RUND

BLUE CROSS FUND

BRITISH WAR RELIEF ASSOCIATION

BANKS AND BANKERS OF NEW YORK

BANKS

BRITISH RED CROSS SOCIETY .

BROOKLYN WOMEN'S WAR RELIEF COMMITTEE

COMMISSION FOR RELIEF IN BELGIUM

CARDINAL MERCIER FUND

CHILDREN OF THE FRONTIER .

THE CANADIAN CLUB OF NEW YORK

THE CIRCLE FOR NEGRO WAR RELIEF

CARNEGIE FOUNDATION .

CHILDREN'S TIN BOX FUND .

DOLLAR CHRISTMAS FUND FOR DESTITUTE BELGIAN CHILDREN

DURYEA WAR RELIEF

THE EMERGENCY AID OF PENNSYLVANIA

FRIENDS OF POLAND

FOOD FOR FRANCE FUND

FRIENDS OF TIIE AMERICAN SOLDIERS AT THE FRONT

FUND FOR OUR WOUNDED ACTORS

THE FRENCH WAR EMERGENCY FUND .

FRENCH HEROES LAFAYETTE MEMORIAL F

TEIE FRENCH BUREAU .

THE FATHERLESS CHILDREN OF FRANCE

GIFTS FOR BELGIAN SOLDIERS

THE JEWISH WELFARE BOARD

JEWISH PEOPLE'S RELIEF OF AMERICA .

JOINT DISTRIBUTION COMMITTEE .

THE KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS

KITCHENER MEMORIAL FUND

KOLOPHON

THE LAFAYETTE FUND .

LORD ROBERTS MEMORIAL WORKSHOPS

LE PAQUET DU SOLDAT

MAYFAIR WAR RELIEF .

THE MAYOR'S COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL DEFENSE OF NEW YORK

MERCY COMMITTEE OF NEW JERSEY

NATIONAL WAR WORK COUNCIL .

THE NATIONAL MARINE LEAGUE OF THE U. S. A.

NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE

NATIONAL AMERICAN COMMITTEE

NATIONAL AMERICANIZATION COMMITTEE

THE NAVY RELIEF SOCIETY .

NATIONAL SPECIAL AID SOCIETY .

NATIONAL ALLIED RELIEF COMMITTEE .

NATIONAL SECIJRITY LEAGUE

OUR BOYS IN FRANCE TOBACCO FUND .

THE PATRIOTIC SERVICE LEAGUE .

TIIE POLISH CHILDREN'S RELIEF FUND OF THE WOMEN'S LEAGUE IN POLAND

PATRONS AND PATRONESSES

PERMANENT BLIND RELIEF WAR FUND

REFUGEES IN RUSSIA

THE ROUMANIAN RELIEF COMMITTEE OF AMERICA

RAINBOW DIVISION WELFARE ASSOCIATION

THE ROCKEFELLER FOUNDATION .

TIIE SALVATION ARMY WAR WORK

SPECIAL WAR RELIEF WORK

SECOURS FRANCO-AMERICAN

THE SERBIAN AID FUND

STAGE WOMEN'S WAR RELIEF

SECOUR NATIONAL FUND FOR THE RELIEF OF FRENCH WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND BELGIAN REFUGEES

THE TREASURE AND TRINKET FUND

TIIE WAR BABIES CRADLE

WOMEN'S OVERSEAS HOSPITALS, U. S. A.

WOMAN'S NAVAL SERVICE, INC.

WAR CAMP COMMUNITY SERVICE .

THE YOUNG MEN'S CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATION

THE YOUNG WOMEN'S CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATION .



4 1/4" by 6" sepia photographic portraits of:



Woodrow Wilson

Charles M. Schwab, Director General, US Shipping Board

Newton D. Baker, Secretary of War

Josephus Daniels, Secretary of the Navy

Col. E.M. House

William Howard Taft, Chairman, Central Committee, the American Red Cross

Henry P. Davison, Chairman, the American Red Cross

Harvey D. Gibson, General Manager, the American Red Cross

Frank B. Gifford, Director of Purchase, the American Red Cross

Eliot Wadsworth, Vice Chairman, the American Red Cross

Otto H. Kahn, distinguished in peace as financier and fosterer of the arts-in war, philanthropist and friend of man

John Wanamaker

Oscar Straus, ex-ambassador to Turkey

Nathan Straus, philanthropist

Maj. George Haven Putnam

Frank A. Vanderslip, Chairman of the National War Savings Committee

Henry Ford

Gov. Charles S. Whitman

Myron T. Herrick, ex-ambassador to France, war worker

Theodore Roosevelt, Honorary President, War Camp Community Service

Joseph Lee, President, War Camp Community Service

George F. Baker, banker philanthropist

John D. Rockefeller, Jr.

Andrew Carnegie



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Alan ALBRIGHT

[Couvi]

Mitch,

The horse ambulance photo I have seen looks like the one in the photo on this website: http://www.sfspca.org/volunteers/CC_feb03.shtml.

I believe that the Army Horse Ambulance was more like a two-wheeled cart rather than a four-wheeled wagon.

Couvi

<i>"Cavalier san Cheval"</i>

[selewis]

Thanks to Jonah Goldberg at National Review for this link:



http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2012/08 ... -cars.html

[Pat Holscher]

https://www.facebook.com/Www.valecnikon ... =1&theater

From the War Horses Facebook group. A horse ambulance in use by U.S. troops, WWI.

[Couvi]

That is a new one to me! With rubber tires and drum brakes, it was quite advanced.

[Pat Holscher]

That is a new one to me! With rubber tires and drum brakes, it was quite advanced.

While I should abstain on commenting, as my knowledge of horse drawn vehicles subtracts from the collective knowledge on that topic, I wonder if this is a European wagon. It doesn't look American to me, if that makes sense.

[Couvi]

That is a new one to me! With rubber tires and drum brakes, it was quite advanced.

While I should abstain on commenting, as my knowledge of horse drawn vehicles subtracts from the collective knowledge on that topic, I wonder if this is a European wagon. It doesn't look American to me, if that makes sense.

The wheels resemble those on the trailers from the 1920s, but I cannot place it either. It could well be European, or some one-of-a-kind, purpose-built vehicle.

Note, for lack of a better word, the cinchas that pass under the animal to render support.

Here is the same image from a different source: http://history.amedd.army.mil/corps/veterinary/wwi.html