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Posted: **Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:35 pm**

I suspect that the halters were removed after dismounting from the vehicles

Sam

Sam Cox

Posted: **Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:32 pm**

What saddle is that on the nearest horse?

Couvi

"Cavalier sans Cheval"

Posted: **Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:03 pm**

I was wondering the same question? Do you think it might be a Model 25 armeesattell? I think it looks more like one than a U.S. Model? Tom

Posted: **Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:37 pm**

The photo is the 16th Constabulary (formerly 78th Cavalry Recon Troop)
The saddle apears to be German
I will scan some tighter grabs of the saddle tonight

regards

Sam

Sam Cox

Posted: **Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:10 pm**

Are the trailers US stock trailers?

Pat

Posted: **Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:51 pm**

Tom,<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tmarsh
 I was wondering the same question? Do you think it might be a Model 25 armeesattell? I think it looks more like one than a U.S. Model? Tom
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">My uncle’s brother, long deceased, was in the Constabulary and had a horse named “The Goat.” I once saw a photograph of him mounted on “The Goat” and I think he told me they used German equipment. That was about 45 years ago, and the memory of that photograph is very dim. He never married and I have asked his nieces and nephews for a copy of that photograph, but none of them remember it.

Couvi

"Cavalier sans Cheval"

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:13 am**

Wonder why there are no Constabulary markings on their helmets. Can't make out the patch, but looks like it might be the "circle C".

Don't attract gunfire. It irritates the people around you.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:30 am**

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by deddygetty
 Wonder why there are no Constabulary markings on their helmets. Can't make out the patch, but looks like it might be the "circle C".

Don't attract gunfire. It irritates the people around you.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That's an interesting observation. They're actually wearing helmet liners, and I thought that might explain it, but going through the other threads I bumped up, I note that its the liners that were normally painted with insignia.

I'm not sure, but I think I might detect where there was something on the front of the liner on the soldier all the way at the right, which makes me wonder if the Army sensor wiped it out. Sensors sometimes very arbitrarily eliminated unit insignias, even where it is otherwise perfectly obvious what unit it is.

Pat

Posted: **Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:58 am**

Sam,<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Sam Cox
 The 16th Constabulary at this early stage had plain liners with a semi gloss finnish

Sam Cox
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">It worries me that you know that! [);]

Couvi

"Cavalier sans Cheval"

Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:17 am**

Can anyone make out the branding on the horses necks? Simple numbering?

Don't attract gunfire. It irritates the people around you.

Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:05 pm**

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by deddygetty
 Can anyone make out the branding on the horses necks? Simple numbering?

Don't attract gunfire. It irritates the people around you.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Interesting - I wonder if they're original German, or US-applied Preston brands?

Todd

Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:01 pm**

Couvi,thanks for the information. Does anybody know why the U.S. halters were so large? Tom

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 11:26 am**

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tmarsh
 Couvi,thanks for the information. Does anybody know why the U.S. halters were so large? Tom
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I built 2 M1904 halters from plans. I was amazed at the size of them. I do have a big headed TB/QH gelding that they fit well, but as a rule they are huge on an ordinary horse.

John Fitzgerald
Eagle County, Colorado

Ride'm like you stole'm

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 2:17 pm**

Indeed. I have an original 1904 halter, and have remarked on the same thing. Of course, as we can see in these pix, they fastened them much more loosely that we do. Not sure why.

Joe

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 4:37 pm**

They are big, aren't they? Perhaps "one size fits everything imaginable".

Was the 78th Cavalry Recon Troop a unit put together immediately after WWII?

Pat

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2007 5:43 pm**

The 78th Recon Troop was part of the 78th Inf Div during WW II and participated in the Rhineland, Ardennes-Alsace, and Central Europe campaigns. First constituted into the National Army as Headquarters, 155th Infantry Brigade, 78th Infantry Division, August 5, 1917. Designated 78th Recon Troop in February 1942. Currently designated Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division.

All the infantry divisions had a cavalry recon troop as part of their organization during WW II. My dad was in the 99th Cavalry Reconnaissance Troop, 99th Infantry Division.

Don't attract gunfire. It irritates the people around you.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2007 6:12 pm**

The horse platoon,Recon Troop was originally formed as a ceremonial escort unit.

Sam Cox

Posted: **Thu May 03, 2007 7:05 pm**

All the Constabulary units had a horse platoon as part of their organizational make-up, because of the terrain in some of the sectors, and the battle damaged routes, horses were the only way to get around in some areas. Some units actively used their horse platoons, and others were just for show.

Don't attract gunfire. It irritates the people around you.

Posted: **Fri May 21, 2010 6:14 pm**

years back someone posted some great 1950s shots of the Berlin Horse Platoon from some recruting magazines

ive searched but cant find them

anyone??

sam

Posted: **Sun May 23, 2010 8:04 am**

There was an excellent article on the Berlin Horse Platoon, published in the WESTERN HORSEMAN Magazine, in the mid 60's. There were several photo's showing the unit in formation and individual stills of some troopers. If my memory serves me they utilized readily available German Cavalry facilities and equipment, with the exception of custom made saddle chevracs. There was references to formation, purpose, equipment and armament of the unit. I can't recall much about the field uniform but, what I'd consider "Class A's," consisted of the 3 buckle boots, riding breeches, Ike jackets and the polished helmet liners with the proper rank and decals.
I hope this may help,

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