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Oxen Artillery

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:44 am
by Pat Holscher
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Re: Oxen Artillery

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:58 pm
by mnhorse
Weren't larger guns often moved this way? The guns from Ft. Ticonderoga to Boston during the American Revolution for example. How about the really big guns during the American Civil War?
Richard

Re: Oxen Artillery

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:57 pm
by browerpatch
I haven't found a photograph, but I did locate the following:

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2004661321/

Re: Oxen Artillery

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:17 am
by Couvi
Bull Batteries were relatively common as oxen were the heavy haulers of their day.

Really heavy guns were moved with ‘Sling Carts,’ also called ‘Bull Wheels,’ with one unit lifting and carrying the muzzle end of the tube and one carrying the breech end. A heavy artillery limber was used to steer the whole affair. They were pulled by 20 oxen and a hundred men, the men aiding in providing traction and acting as the brakes.

War Between the States:

http://markerhunter.files.wordpress.com ... ulaski.jpg
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/cwpb.01358/
http://markerhunter.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/

Phulippine Insurrection:

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm ... ad=1389180 This site shows ‘Bridgeman’s Bull Battery’ in the Philippines in the early 1900s

Re: Oxen Artillery

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:34 pm
by browerpatch
Here is a photo of both the iron hand sling cart, and the larger sling cart. The iron sling cart seems to have a mortar bed under it. There is also a Parrott tube suspended on a gin in the background. I love the LOC online collection.

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/cwpb.00004/


I've heard that the larger sling carts, or something based on them, were used in Florida in the late 1800's in the harvesting and moving of some of the tremendous old growth pine.

Frank

Re: Oxen Artillery

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:38 pm
by Couvi
browerpatch wrote:Here is a photo of both the iron hand sling cart, and the larger sling cart. The iron sling cart seems to have a mortar bed under it. There is also a Parrott tube suspended on a gin in the background. I love the LOC online collection.

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/cwpb.00004/


I've heard that the larger sling carts, or something based on them, were used in Florida in the late 1800's in the harvesting and moving of some of the tremendous old growth pine.

Frank
I've heard that the larger sling carts, or something based on them, were used in Florida in the late 1800's in the harvesting and moving of some of the tremendous old growth pine.
In Louisiana they were used to haul cypress and were called 'Devils.'

Re: Oxen Artillery

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:13 pm
by browerpatch
Indian Bullock Guns.

Re: Oxen Artillery

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:42 am
by Couvi
More Sling Carts

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/stere ... 02774v.jpg

Note the size of the axle and the number of spokes. Also note the bars on the screw by which the load is lifted.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/stere ... 02774v.jpg

Note the brakes on the front of the wheels and the levers in the rear to operate the brakes; and note the heavy artillery limber used top steer the rig. The ropes on the end of the axle is used by the men to assist in applying traction and to assist in braking. Judge the size of the wheels by the size fo the man in the photograph:

http://fineartamerica.com/featured/civi ... anger.html

http://moultrie.battlefieldsinmotion.co ... ne_lrg.jpg