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Tom:

I received the CD Saturday. It is a wonderful resource. Thanks so much.

I have a letter on the way to you. As an architect, that Lancashire Boiler has captured my interest, in fact I am using it in one of my design courses to keep my students' interest up in the final weeks of the year.

I would be very eager to obtain any future productions, including LOC's.

Thanks again, and let me know if I can ever do anything for you.

Regards,

John Ruf
Culpeper, Virginia

"God forbid that I should go to any Heaven in which there are no horses."
Robert Bontine Cunninghame Graham 1852-1936


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Hi John (et al)
I'm glad the disc arrived OK and that the material is of interest.

I'll tack a full list of what we have scanned in so far on the end of this, its no hassle to make a copy of any/all of it.

I'm currently scanning in the stack of 1914-1939 Saddle and Pack saddle related LoCs I got from the Pattern room and will send them on when they are done. Theres some harness/wagon related ones but I can't claim to have even tried to get a full set of those.

Anyway, if any one else wants copies of what we have done, just drop us a line, its mainly Commonwealth small arms stuff as you can see with some horse related documents. Its just too big to fit on a 4500MB DVD now. If anyone has similar material they don't mind sharing which is too big to be put up on a website It would be gratefully received.

All the best

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Instructions for Armourers 1931 1939 printing
(Word document with inserted jpgs.)

Instructions for Armourers 1931 sheets of drawings (.jpgs) (also as HUGE bmp)

S.A.I.D. 2053 Pistol Revolver No1 MkIII, IV, V, VI .455 Webley
S.A.I.D. 2058 Rifles No3 MkI* (F) and (T)
S.A.I.D. 2059 Components Rifles No3 MkI (F) and (T)
S.A.I.D. 2062 Gun, Machine, Vickers, .303-in, MkI
S.A.I.D. 2063 Gun, Machine, Lewis, .303-in, MkI
S.A.I.D. 2064 Guns, Machine, Hotchkiss, .303-in, MkI No1 and 2
S.A.I.D. 2267 Rifles, No1 MkIII, No1 MkIII* and No2 MkIV*
S.A.I.D. 2268 Rifles, No1 MkIII, No1 MkIII* and No2 MkIV*, Components
S.A.I.D. 2269 Rifles, No1 MkIII, No1 MkIII* and No2 MkIV*, Components
S.A.I.D. 2270 Bicycle, MkIV
S.A.I.D. 2271 Bicycle, MkIV, Components and Accessories
S.A.I.D. 2272 Bicycle, MkIV, Components and Accessories
S.A.I.D. 2273 Bicycle, MkIV, Components and Accessories
S.A.I.D. 2474 Bayonets, Dirk, Sword and Scabbards
S.A.I.D. 2081 Mounting Vickers MkIV, Mount Lewis MkIII and Mount Hotchkiss MkII* & MkII**
S.A.I.D. 2530 Pistol, Signal, No1, MkIII*
D.D. (E) 871 Instructions to guide local adjustment and repair of Mountings, Tripod, Vickers MkIV
D.D. (E) 1000 Mounting, Tripod, MG MkIV, Wheel Elevation B
A.I.D. 1711 Guns Machine Lewis, Eliminator, Flash MkI

Supplement No. 1 Pistols, Revolver, No. 2, Mark I (. 38-Inch, with 5-inch barrel) Drawing No. D.D.(E) 1775 (Word with jpgs)

Supplement No. 2 Guns, Machine, BREN .303-IN., Mark I. Mountings, Tripod, BREN .303-IN.
M.G., Mark I, And Accessories Reprinted with Amendments (Nos. 1 and 2) and (No. 3) Promulgated in A.C.I. 1602 of 1940
Drawing Nos. D.D.(E) 1923 (2 sheets), 1924, 1925, 2318, 2332 (2 sheets), and 2254 (Word with jpg)

Supplement No.3 Guns, Machine, Besa, 7.92mm., MK. I and MK. II Guns, Machine, Besa, 15mm., MK I And Accessories.
Drawing Nos. D.D.(E) 2631 (2 sheets) (Mk. II gun). 2644 (2 sheets), 2649. 2660 (Word with jpgs)

Supplement No. 4 Rifle, Boys, MK I., Drawing Nos. D.D. (E) 1926, 2029 (Accessories) (jpgs)

1957 Provisional REME use of Gauges on small arms 54 pages(Very interesting stuff, Word document )

REME Armourers Training Notes circa 1961, (jpgs)

Introduction
No. 4 Rifle and General Armourers work
.303 Bren Light Machine Gun
L1A1 Self Loading Rifle
No. 2 Mk 1 pistol
Armourers duties and Forms

REME Armourers Training Notes circa 1977 (jpgs) Small Arms Section R.E.M.E. Bordon. Routine Procedure and Armourer’s Duties PRECIS S.A.1 (.jpgs)

CONTENTS
Duties and control of armourers
Army books, forms and publications
Examination and inspection of S.A., M.G. and miscellaneous equipment
Infantry training pamphlets, identification lists and V.A.O.S.
Questionnaire on routine procedure
Rust-proofing of S.A. and M.G.
Glossary of technical terms and abbreviations
Priority of modifications
Terminology and definition of repair by REME
Defect reporting
List of E.M.E.Rs S.A. and M.G.
Appendix, army forms


REME Armourers notes for the L1A1 Self Loading Rifle Small Arms Section R.E.M.E. Bordon. Rifle, 7.62 L.1A.1
PRECIS S.A.2 (.jpgs)

CONTENTS
Physical data
Technical description
Action of mechanism
Stripping and assembling
Zeroing and range testing
Inspection sequence
Cleaning and removal of obstructions from the bore
Questionnaire

British Machine Tool Engineering 1947 50 page article on Enfield Lock and Manufacturing the Mk 3 Bren as mentioned in BGS (jpg)

Besa section from the Churchill tank handbook (jpgs)

“Machinery” magazine 1955 11 page article on the manufactue of parts for the Sterling Submachine Gun. (jpgs)

Small Arms Training, Volume I, Pamphlet No. 4 Light Machine Gun 1939 Reprinted with Amendments (No.1) 1941)
(Word with .jpgs)

Small Arms Training, Volume I, Pamphlet No. 4 Light Machine Gun 1942 This pamphlet supersedes the 1939 Edition, and that reprinted with Amendments (No.1), 1941) With 1945 Amendments high lighted and deleted text struck through. (Word with .jpgs)

Infantry Training Volume II Skill at Arms ( Personal Weapons ) Pamphlet no. 8 Part 2 Light Machine Gun (All Arms) Reprinted incorporating Amendments 1-5 1978 (.jpgs)

The Bren Light Machine Gun. Description, Use and Mechanism. Gale and Polden Ltd. Wartime privately published pamphlet. (pdf format)

1961 Simple CES L4A6 (jpgs)

Manual of Modern Automatic Guns. Sten, Bren, Lewis, Thompson, Vickers, Browning Etc. Etc. Loading, firing, details of mechanism, stoppages, immediate action, stripping and assembling etc. etc. Bernards Publishers, Ltd. Wartime privately published pamphlet. (pdf format)

Small Arms Manual by Brigadier J.A. Barlow Third Edition February 1944 (Word with .jpgs)
Section on .303-inch Bren
Section on .303-inch Vickers-Berthier (India) (LMG)
Section on .30-inch self-loading Carbine M1 (U.S.A.)
Section on .45-inch Thompson


Small Arms Training Volume I Pamphlet,

No.3 Rifle, 1942 (Word with .jpgs) (pdf format)

No. 4 Light Machine Gun, 1942 This pamphlet supersedes the 1939 Edition, and that reprinted with Amendments (No.1), 1941) (pdf format)

No.5 Anti-Tank Rifle, 1937 (reprinted with amendment (No. 1), 1939) (pdf format)

No. 6 Anti-Aircraft 1937 (1939 printing) (pdf)

No. 6 Anti-Aircraft 1943 Supplement No. 2 The Mounting Seat AA The 100 Rd Magazine Equipment (jpgs)

No.8 Mortar(2inch), 1939 (pdf format)

No.11 Pistol(.38inch), 1942 This pamphlet supersedes the 1941 edition (pdf format)

No.12 Bayonet, 1942 (pdf format)

No.13 Grenade, 1942 (This pamphlet supersedes the 1937 edition that reprinted with Amendments (No. 1), 1941 and Supplements Nos. 1 and 2 of 1941 thereto.) (pdf format)

No. 20 .303-inch Lewis Machine Gun 1939 (jpgs)

No. 21 Carbine, 1944 (This pamphlet supersedes S.A.T. Vol I, Pamphlets Nos. 21 and 22, 1942) (pdf format)

1959 SLR 3B manual(120page Word document)

1975 L1A1 SLR manual (300 jpg document)

1959 L1A1 User hand book (jpg)

1982 L1A1 SLR illustrated parts list (jpg)

L42/ L39 Rifles Parts list. (jpg)

1942 M1919A4 MG illustrated parts list (34 jpgs)

1942 Sten illustrated parts list (26 odd jpg)

1942 Mk II Bren illustrated parts list (24 odd jpgs)

1944 Mk I and Mk II llustrated parts list (64 jpgs)(also a cleaned up version of same with marks airbrushed or faded out)

1956 Australian .303 Bren Illustrated Parts List (jpgs)

1959 Comprehensive list of component parts (Illustrated) for Gun, Machine, 7.62 mm., L4A2 and Accessories/Ancillaries, V.A.O.S. Section – C1(Word with .jpgs)

1942 7.92 Besa illustrated parts list (34 jpgs)

1944 PIAT Illustrated Parts List

1949 Besa Illustrated parts list (+ Tools section from 1956 version)

1960 M20 Mk 2 3.5" rocket Launcher parts list (jpg)

1975 Browning 9mm Pistol manual (70 odd jpg document)

1975 Submachine gun (L2A3/L34A1) (70 odd jpg document)

EMER Difference between Mks of .303 and L4 series Brens (1 1/2 page table in Word)

Gale & Polden "The Armourers Handbook Part III Light Machine Guns" circa 1942, covers Mk I and II Bren, VB Mk III, Hotchkiss and .30 and .303 Lewis (word document)

The Bren Gun Pocket Book and illustrated Guide, Robertson & Mullens Ltd Melbourne (jpgs)

1954 West Africa Command No. 4 Rifle and Bayonet training manual(cartoon version)(jpg)

Infantry Training Vol I Infantry Platoon Weapons Pamphlet No. 5 9-mm Browning Self Loading Pistol 1958 (jpgs)

Infantry Training Volume I Infantry Platoon Weapons Pamphlet No. 6 The Light Machine Gun All Arms 1948 Reprinted with Amendments
(Nos 1 to 3) 1953 (Word with .jpgs)

Infantry Training Vol I Infantry Platoon Weapons Pamphlet No. 6 The Light Machine Gun Sup. No. 1 AA LMG (jpgs) 1951

Infantry Training Vol I Infantry Platoon Weapons Pamphlet No. 7 Grenades 1964 WO Code No. 9941
(jpg)

Infantry Training Vol I Infantry Platoon Weapons Pamphlet No. 8 The Light Mortar (2-inch) 1966 Army Code No. 70373
(jpgs)

Infantry Training Vol I Infantry Platoon Weapons Pamphlet No. 9 part I The Anti-Tank Grenade No. 94 (Energa) 1953 + amdts 1,2 and 3 WO Code No.8773

Infantry Training Vol I Infantry Platoon Weapons Pamphlet No. 9 Part IV 66mm Section Ant-Tank Rocket 1970 Army
Code No 70026

Infantry Training Vol I Infantry Platoon Weapons Pamphlet No. 13 The Ackpack Flame Thrower 1952 Wo Code No. 8760

User Handbook for the .303 Inch Bren Gun Mks 1, 2, 2/1, 3 & 4 and 7.62 mm Bren L4A1 to L4A7 Prepared and printed by INSPECTORATE OF ARMAMENTS WOOLWICH JUNE 1969 (.jpgs)

1977 L2A3/L34A1 User hand book (jpg)

1960 2-inch Mortar user Handbook (jpgs)

1979 Australian L4A4 Manual (jpgs)

Circa 1935 Vickers Armstrong Handbook for the Vickers Berthier LMG MK I M 11 (Currently as a file of jpgs but the wife (on sick leave) has started using a donated, liscenced, copy of Omnipage 10 to turn it into a Word document with hi res’ jpgs of the sheets of drawings/photo’s of layouts.) (Also have unscanned a ex Herb Woodend copy of the manual for the model 1924-25 and a original book for the M 8 Oh and a book for the F class drum fed Vickers Airgunners MG)

Dutch versions of the UK wartime SAT pamphlets for the
Rifle
Bren
Besa 7.92mm Circa 1945/46 (As jpgs)

1944 Identification list for the mountings Straddle AA Bren and .303 Browning. (25 jpgs)

1941 Document listing all the current Bren parts etc Wheedon. (20 jpgs)

Section from the 1947 Mk 3 Bren parts list which covers the Mk 2* Airborne tripod

1968 RAF Armourers notes for the L4 and .303 Brens A.P.1641P (68 sub A4 pages as jpgs from photocopies)

BAOR Armourers Wing Precis on the Bren (jpgs)

BAOR Armourers Wing Precis on the 2” Mortar (jpgs)

BAOR Armourers Wing Precis for the 7.92mm Besa (jpgs)

Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores Section C1 Machine Guns, Mountings and Accessories For Ground Service Use 1960

Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores Section C1 Machine Guns, Mountings and Accessories For Ground Service Use 1953

Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores Section C1 Machine Guns, Mountings and Accessories For Ground Service Use 1949 Pages with Bren bits on only.

Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores Section B2 Small Arms Accessories, Tools and Packages 1948

Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores Section B2 Small Arms Accessories, Tools and Packages 1942 with Amendments 1 to 5

Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores Section N2 3.7-in Howitzer and Carriages 1942

1929 Czech tripod manual (in English).

ZGB Illustrated Parts list

English ZB30 manual

1938 Indian LMG SAT (Vickers Berthier)

Provisional commercial Vickers-Berthier Handbook circa 1930-34

RAC Military Training Pamphlet No. 35 Part 4 Vickers Go Machine Gun Mk 1 1943 (as 11 pdf files of 2 page spreads)

Air Publication 1641 b Volume1 Vickers .303-in Gas Operated Mk. 1 Gun, No 1 and No. 3 Air Service No. 2 and No. 4 Ground service. Descriptive handbook. November 1938 March 1943 printing. (48 jpgs)

S.S. 587 Pack Equipment Pattern 1917 for Hotchkiss Machine Gun (Cavalry) (Very nice!)

Memorandum: Particulars of Small Arms CIOA/A 1950

Handbook for the Vickers-Berthier Light Machine Gun Model 1923

Handbook for the Vickers-Berthier Light Machine Gun Model 1924-25

Handbook for the Vickers-Berthier Light Machine Gun Model 1928-1929

VAOS Section C2 Machine guns and their appurtenances for use in armoured fighting vehicles 1944

B.R. 776 Handbook for the Vickers .303-inch G.O. No. I Mark I Gun on the Mark III, IV and V Mountings 1943

The Rexer Automatic Machine Gun circa 1905

A Brief History of the Bren Light Machine Gun MP 165 Inspectorate of Armaments Woolwich 1969

RAC Weapons MTP No. 35 Part 7: Medium MachineGun (Besa 7.92-mm MARKS I and II ) 1940 (Reprinted with Amendments (Nos. 1 and 2) 1941)

RAC Weapons MTP No. 35 Part 7: BESA 7.92-mm. MARKS II , II*, III, III* and IV 1942

7.92mm Besa Range table 1941

7.92mm Besa Range table 1943

.303 Madsen Report, Bisley trials 1930

1945 Mk 3 Bren illustrated parts list

15 mm Besa BSA brochure

15mm Besa Range table

Pre WWI Hotchkiss Handbook

1918 army Hotchkiss Handbook

1942 .303 Lewis Illustrated Parts List

Inspection Standards for the Mk I, II, 2/1 and 3 Bren etc

Amendments for the 1945 Mk 3 Bren Parts list

Amendments for the 1947 Mk I and II etc Bren Parts list

RAC Weapons MTP No. 35 Part 13: .300-inch Browning Machine Gun 1942

RAC Weapons MTP No. 35 Part 10 .50-inch Browning Machine Gun 1944

1944 Mk 3 Bren illustrated parts list

Inspections Instructions for the Besa Mk 3/3 Parts One and Two (2 pamphlets)

S.A. Identification Lists C.I. American Guns, Machine, Lewis, .30-in U.S.A., Mk.1 Dec 1941 C.O.D. Weedon (Technical Branch)

RAC Weapons MTP No. 35 Part 8: heavy machine gun (BESA 15-mm. Mark I) 1940 reprinted with amendments (No.1) 1941

SAT Volume I, Pamphlet No. 24 Projector, Infantry, Anti-Tank (PIAT) 1943 (Provisionl)

Identification List for Gun, Machine, Bren.. . 303-inch, Marks 1 and 2 Also Mounting, Tripod, Bren .303-inch M.G., Marks 2 and 2/1 1947 Section C1

Handbook for the .303-IN Lewis Gun, Marks I and II February 1918 40/W.O./4279

SAT Volume I, Pamphlet No. 25 20 mm. Weapons Equipments and Gun Drills 1944

SAT Volume I, Pamphlet No. 19 Anti-Tank Gun (25-mm. Hotchkiss, Mark I on 25-mm. Carriage Mark I) 1939

Handbook of the Lewis Automatic Machine Gun Model 1914 (from Digi-cam Pics)

Infantry Machine Gun Company Limber Drill March 1917

Notes on the Employment of Lewis Guns During recent operations in Palestine 40/WO/5997 1918

Notes on the Employment of Lewis Guns in Dersart Warfare in Egypt 40/WO/3515 December 1917

Some Notes on Lewis Guns and Machine Guns 40/wo/3312 S.S. 122 September 1916

The Tactical Employment of Lewis Guns S.S, 197 O.B./1432/B January 1918

SAT Volume I, Pamphlet No 4 .303-inch Light Machine Gun (India) 1942 (Bren and V.B.)

Handbook of the .303” Lewis Machine Gun Prt I (Provisional) 1915

Handbook of the Lewis Automatic Machine Gun Model 1915

Notes on the Hotchkiss Machine Gun .303 in. Mark I and I* 1941 reprinted February Incomperating Amendments Nos. 1 to 4 1943 BR. 242/41

Company Brochure/Handbook on the ZB37/53 in .303 inch

Company Brochure/Handbook on the ZB37/53 in 7.92mm

South African Illustrated Parts List for their 7.62mm Bren 1975

Lewis Gun Training (Ground) 1931 Edition Small Arms School Press Hythe

Handbook (Provisional) for the .303-in Lewis Machine Gun (Magazine Rifle Chamber) 1915

Methods of Instruction in the Lewis Gun, Machine Gun School GHQ SS 488 1916

Handbook of the Hotchkiss .303 Machine Gun compied by The Machine Gun Bovington June 1918

Range Table for .303-inch Vickers Machine Gun 1937

Range Table for .303-inch Vickers Machine Gun 1939, 1940 Printing

Small Arms Training Volume II 1931 (365pages!)

Handbook of the Vickers Aircraft Observers Machine Gun (Class “F” –Rifle Calibre) AM. 2/A
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Nuts!, I have left some off the list.

Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores Section D1 Harness, Saddlery and Pack Saddlery 1931

Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores Section D1 Harness, Saddlery and Pack Saddlery 1940

Although there may be others...

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Chaps, see attached photo from Tom of the VB.

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Originally posted by David
Chaps, see attached photo from Tom of the VB.

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Very interesting. It certainly looks to be the qual of the Bren, even if it apparently wasn't quite as good.

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The early models, like my 1928-1929 did have a bad reputation, being very intolerant to poor cleaning. However by WWII the models in use were much more soldier friendly (Mk II and mainly the Indian made Mk III). Infact when the V-B was replaced with the Bren for logistic reasons the troops thought they were trading down!

A little know fact is that British troops did use the V-B outside of India, in Burma and early on in North Africa. Battalions that had been part of Indian Brigades swapped their old Lewis Guns for V-Bs and used them until stocks of Brens were sufficient to replace theirs and the others in their brigades.

I have quite a few Indian LoCs for the V-B saddlery (later used with the Bren) and the sections on pack saddlery from a couple of Indian LMG SATs, if any one would care to see them.

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See image below from the Vickers-Berthier company issued handbook:

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How very interseting.

I have to wonder why the US Army didn't ever take a shot at something simliar for the BAR.

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Although Vickers Armstrong were canny enough not to leave a single date in this edition of the handbook (after all who wants last years model...) I have tentatively dated this one to about 1931.

Dave, could you please put up the previous page which if I remember right has more details of the cavalry loads?

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Hi Folks
a friend of mine has just managed to find and aquire a example of the leather three Bren Magazine Bandoleer. Unlike the other two (Pattern Room and Warminster) examples I have examined this one has a manufacturers mark and date.

Blackman Leather Company 1939.

It seams to have been used.

If anyone has details about this company...

Thanks

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Another thought on Bren pack saddlery, the Bren saddlery spares box greatly resembles the Lewis one in the photo I have (externally the only differeance is the tail the working end of the cleaning rod goes into thats missing on the Lewis version).

With the Bren version of the saddlery spares box internally theres always been a question why there's the wooden block with the big semi circular cut out in the lid and what were the two small buckled straps for. Looking at the spares kit for the the Lewis it had a spare barrel , gas cylinder and a spare piston. Also somewhere it says that the cleaning rod was stored inside the spare barrel and kept it in place in the spares bag so I'm guessing the box is another recycled Lewis bit, like the Brens infantry version magazine carriers which are identical to the Pre 1925ish Lewis 9 pan carriers, and the cut out is to fit the barrel and the two straps are for either (or both, one inside the other) the spare cylinder or piston. The Mk I Lewis cylinder rod is of a size for the Mk I Bren one and ditto for the brush and mop so there wouldn't be a need to change the design. Certainly in the 1940s Bren magazine carriers were still made with deviders for the Lewis pans, which then had to be removed to take Bren mags, one assumes in pairs of webbing utility pouches or some other containers rather than loose.

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The one on eBays Madsen kit, the saddle horses took two in front of the rider while the pack horses took 8. I've photos from the pre war sales brochures if any one would like to put them up.

They are quite common in the UK and often incorectly labelled up as Bren kit.

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Originally posted by Tom Ready
The one on eBays Madsen kit, the saddle horses took two in front of the rider while the pack horses took 8. I've photos from the pre war sales brochures if any one would like to put them up.

They are quite common in the UK and often incorectly labelled up as Bren kit.

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Tom, what does their commonality reflect? Were Madsen's fairly significant in the British equipments at some time?

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Hi Pat
a handful where bought pre Great War, most notably those bought by private subscription for use in the Natal war/rebellion but British attempts to buy them or manufacture them over here came to nought after lots of time and money had been wasted. Rolls Royce manufactured a few parts but the whole project was cancelled.

Pre war the Rexer company assembled a few from parts made overseas but those didn't go into regular service as far as I can tell.

I'm not sure if any where used by other Empire forces as a fair few were floating about the international market and we were pretty desperate for MGs.

I think most of those we ordered from the Danes went to Estonia to fight off the Russians/Reds post war when they could export them without the Germans objecting.

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Not exactly related but i have a belt section from the 1940 Mills Cavalry equipment that is a basic pouch to suit Bren magazines.
Can put up pics if needed


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Originally posted by Sam Cox
Not exactly related but i have a belt section from the 1940 Mills Cavalry equipment that is a basic pouch to suit Bren magazines.
Can put up pics if needed


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Please do!

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I will get a better picture of this section on a complete set

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Womderful! Thanks Sam, one of my other fetishes is webbing.
I've more details somewhere but heres the contents of a Army Council Instructions entry I coppied at the Pattern Room Library (that was)

(<i>Can't make out number</i>) <b>Equipment.- Pouches, Basic, Web Equipment, Cavalry Pattern, '40</b>1. A basic pouch has been designed to carry magazzines on the Cavalry Pattern '40 Web Equipment for mounted personenel armed with the Sten carbine or Thompson sub-machine-gun.

2. These pouches will replace the carriers, cartridge, 45 rounds, W.E., Cavalry Pattern '40, left and right, which will be returned to the R.A.O.C. when pouches basic are received.

3. Catalogue numbers and nomenclature are as shown below:-
Pouches, Basic, W.E., Cavalry Patt. '40-

AA 1460 Left
AA 1461 Right

4. indents will be submitted through the normal channels. Issues will be made as soon as stocks are available.

<div align="right">57/General (A) /3779 (O.S. 9(a)).</div id="right">

<div align="left">I'll see what else I have, a LoC maybe? </div id="left">

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I will get a better picture of this section on a complete set

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What was the issue color?

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