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Kurt - do you have a close-up of the flap strap buckles?

Japanese.

Here is the link for those who've not seen the old Cavalry Journal article that Whiting wrote about his modification -

https://www.militaryhorse.org/the-mcclellan-saddle-and-its-proposed-modifications/

The pertinent quotes in that article :

Five of these straps are used on the pommel. One ...

You may well have hit it on the button - will need to do some digging to see if I can find any decent pics of that mod - if not Whiting's, then some other unit level inventery, as a lot of folks were trying to find better options. Whiting just managed to get published. Save those newspaper stuffings ...

"And this is our White Star Patented "Brodie Shade"...

My wife and I went to a new Yuppie hamburger place a couple of months ago. The waiter had a number of new piercings, some of which were infected. He wanted to sit next to me and be my buddy while he took our order. I was not amused. The food was adequate, but not worth the possibility of ...

Read the very last 'Cavalry Journal' intro the other day, just before it was renamed to 'Armor Journal', and BG Herr's article in defense of horse-mounted cavalry was so bizarre it bordered on the unhinged.


Was that in the last issue?

I'll have to dig it up on Hathitrust site - it was ...

Pat Holscher wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:08 am

Couvi wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:48 am Where, pray tell, were we still using oxen?

Good question!

Philippines, perhaps?

Those are very interesting numbers indeed. I am surprised to see so many standard M1904 saddles (50K units) and 1904 modified = 1928 (66K units) in inventory so late in the game. The report is only a couple of years before the final dismount of the last cavalry units, so they must have seen the ...

Couvi wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:48 am Where, pray tell, were we still using oxen?

I'm willing to bet there is a qualification bar somewhere out there ....

This really only represents about 20% (or possibly less) of what was on-hand in 1919. They were surplussing equipment that was still in the manufacturers boxes sitting on depot sidings - the excess made during WW1 was almost criminal (as there weren't regulations/laws in force yet about this).

From appropriation hearings in 1941:

Supplemental_Natl_Def_Approp_1941_number of saddles available.PNG

Some of the commentary in these hearings was amazing - the military did themselves no favors by having three different saddle systems names 'Phillips'...

Note that there is enough detail to ...

Someone told me they were for clipping the horses together when one soldier held onto four horses while the riders we off their mounts. Has anyone heard anything like this?


That was common tactic for cavalrymen, but that used a separate piece of gear called a 'link strap'. The link strap was a ...

I’d say they were rings for a check rein setup. The slots were for a curb rein set, where the curb chain was attached to hooks set in the small slots located adjacent to the headstall slots. In actual practice, the check reins would eliminated or at least minimize any action of the curb chain.

The #3 bit with the port rings is a US 'New Model' artillery bit that has a tin-plated finish - this was done post-civil war to many military bits to try to slow rusting. Some people call these "M1863 artillery bits".

The #2 bit (marked RIA?) is a standard US-issue Shoemaker type - I've not handled ...

And just to interject distraction, you may just have to pick a source and go with it. Many organizations did their own thing or had variations as far down as the company level. Trying to get a good 'balanced load' with the McClellan appears to have been the equivalent of a '9mm-vs-45' argument.

Here's a good place to start -

https://militaryhorse.org/forum/viewtop ... lit=brands

Presume that it is a privately-held brand until it's completely researched.

NICE! The proportions are visually perfect on that saddle - I’ve never seen that level of work in miniatures before. :thumbup:

I believe 1885 was earliest printed reg describing leather ventilator. It may have been in limited use before that, in some form or other, but I’ll let more ...

NICE! The proportions are visually perfect on that saddle - I’ve never seen that level of work in miniatures before. :thumbup:

I believe 1885 was earliest printed reg describing leather ventilator. It may have been in limited use before that, in some form or other, but I’ll let more knowledgeable ...