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Rough Riders and the Irish Dragoons

Postby Philip S » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:04 pm

I took a picture this afternoon of a recruiting poster for an honor guard to the Irish Dragoons in the National Civil War Museum (Harrisburg, PA). The recruiting address was in Philadelphia. I wonder what unit this was.
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Re: Rough Riders and the Irish Dragoons

Postby Brian P. » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:25 am

There were a few militia Cav units that called themselves "The Irish Dragoons" during the War Between the States. This particular unit is the 13th Cavalry which was formed in Pennsylvania to be the Cavalry attached to Meagher's famous "Irish Brigade". The "Rough Rider" unit mentioned in the poster is more than likely just a recruiting tool to entice young Irish men to join up "for fun and adventure"! Here's a reference for Gallagher's "Irish Dragoons":

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:G3cDz7RPrAMJ:files.usgwarchives.net/pa/philadelphia/military/pcw0006.txt+union+army+irish+dragoons+col+gallagher&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
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Re: Rough Riders and the Irish Dragoons

Postby Larry Emrick » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:33 am

This makes for fascinating reading and the record of losses in virtually all units is particularly poignant because of the very high numbers of troopers who died from disease and other causes. presumably such as the officer who drowned when his horse fell on him at a ford, compared to deaths in combat.
Another noteable fact is the number of engagements in which these units participated/
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Re: Rough Riders and the Irish Dragoons

Postby Philip S » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:40 am

Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders were familiar to me. Apparently the term Rough Riders is older. I wonder how long it has been existance.
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Re: Rough Riders and the Irish Dragoons

Postby Pat Holscher » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:01 pm

Philip S wrote:Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders were familiar to me. Apparently the term Rough Riders is older. I wonder how long it has been existance.


Around here you'll sometimes see local historians claim that the 1st U.S. Vol Cav stole that name from the 3d U.S. Vol Cav, a Wyoming outfit, which was called "Terry's Rough Riders" by the local press. I doubt that the name was stolen, it was probably a semi popular nickname for any flamboyant volunteer cav outfit at the time.
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Re: Rough Riders and the Irish Dragoons

Postby Brian P. » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:12 am

Philip S wrote:Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders were familiar to me. Apparently the term Rough Riders is older. I wonder how long it has been existance.


Don't the British call their horse breakers/riding instructors "rough riders"? I think that it is a fairly old term.
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