Breeches Pattern

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Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:19 pm

I am new to the forum and have really been enjoying the content on the SMH website. Thanks to everyone who keeps it running.

Was wondering if anyone had a pattern for making the old military style breeches such as worn by a US Army officer in the WWII era? I am hoping to have a couple of pairs of breeches made - one in beige/taupe cavalry twill for fox hunting and one pair made in tartan.

I think I may have found the source for the cavalry twill but am open to other ideas anyone can offer - looking for 17-22 oz 100% wool cavalry twill in the taupe/drab/beige hue close to the WWII US officer trouser elastique "pinks" color.

I do have a few pairs of original breeches my tailor can work with but thought a pattern would be more help.

On the other hand, is there any tailor or company that can make these breeches for me? Been reading that Peter Jay has helped other members here - can they make what I am looking for?

Thanks in advance.

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Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:01 pm

You may want to search through the old threads as there was somebody, a long time ago, looking into something similar. It might be long enough ago that the search features doesn't work perfectly for the thread however.
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Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:30 am

There is a breeches pattern out there somewhere in Sewing Land for flared breeches, but I'm not sure that it follows the exact lines of the military pattern. I'm sure that it is geared more to the female form. If you would like a ready made set of breeches, go to What Price Glory at onlinemilitaria.net. They sell just about every pattern of US Army breeches from the 1902 pattern up to the WWII patterns. They also have the British patterns. For your purposes, they sell the pink US Officer Breeches in wool elastique and also the British breeches in a taupe whipcord. They also have tartan breeches, but only in the Government Tartan (Black Watch).
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:59 pm

I found the following. Not exactly what you're looking for but it might do for your purposes.

https://books.google.com/books?id=paA7A ... es&f=false

https://play.google.com/books/reader?id ... pg=GBS.PA1
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:03 pm

After I posted the links I found a hard copy of the Croonberg's item.

https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Search ... e+Fashions
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:40 pm

One more note: I just ordered this:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/277246344/ ... gallery_20

Don't know if I can make it "pass" for a uniform item but looks cool for hacking out like a gentleman!!! :)
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:07 pm

wkambic wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:59 pm
I found the following. Not exactly what you're looking for but it might do for your purposes.

https://books.google.com/books?id=paA7A ... es&f=false

https://play.google.com/books/reader?id ... pg=GBS.PA1
https://books.google.com/books?id=paA7A ... es&f=false See page 59 & 60 for 1917 mounted breeches.
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I bought a pair of spur chains from that outfit, What Price Glory, and was pleased with them. The price was right, the company was prompt, they fit, and the product was well made. Maybe too well made- my only nit to pick is in the realm of the sartorial. The resplendence of the stainless steel is a distraction from the mellow patina of the old M 1911 spur.

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selewis wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:17 pm
I bought a pair of spur chains from that outfit, What Price Glory, and was pleased with them. The price was right, the company was prompt, they fit, and the product was well made. Maybe too well made- my only nit to pick is in the realm of the sartorial. The resplendence of the stainless steel is a distraction from the mellow patina of the old M 1911 spur.

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Dare I say, if there is a mellow patina, your batsman is slacking on the job.... :P
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:49 am

Oh, yes he's a slacker. Out of curiosity, though, what is the alloy that the spurs are made of? Nickel? I don't believe that any amount of polishing would bring them up to the glare of stainless.
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:11 pm

selewis wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:49 am
Oh, yes he's a slacker. Out of curiosity, though, what is the alloy that the spurs are made of? Nickel? I don't believe that any amount of polishing would bring them up to the glare of stainless.
True - the best, cleanest shine will still have some warmth to it, where stainless is a bit too bright.

Iirc, they are MOSTLY nickel, with some copper in the alloy. They won't turn the absolute sickening green that solid nickel will - had some lovely 'SOLID NICKEL' Marquis stirrups from the twenties that I was gifted out of a barn toss pile, with about twenty years of grunge and 'patina' - they looked like a '50s sci fi movie poster :mrgreen:
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